On 5 Kislev the following letter was sent to Rabbi Schwei informing him about the current situation with the Mesira on Six of our community members who volunteer in Shomrim Chesed organization. In this letter Rabbi Schwei is being informed of how many are misusing his name (in a public way) to justify this vicious Messira (a modern day blood libel), he is asked many questions about his said involvement. upen receiving this letter, Rabbi Schwei promised a full response by the following Shabbos (11 Kislev- November 28). Shabbos has come and gone and no responds.
For the original Hebrew letter to Rabbi Schwei from Hershkop Family Click Here
[Translation]
5 Kislev 5770 (November 22, 2009)
Dear Rabbi Schwei:
You are most certainly aware of the fact that there is a court case going on in secular court, and you have stated clearly that it is forbidden to do so without explicit permission from a competent Rav.
Recently a flier was distributed to all the homes in Crown Heights, it was sent from our opponents who claim to speak on your behalf (they also posted it on the official website of your followers called Chabad.info). In the flier they claim that you, Rav Schwei and Rav Osdoba gave them permission to take us to court. Rav Osdoba immediately issued a public letter in which he completely denies such claims, and he stated that he never gave them permission to go to court, and that those who went to court are evil people who have no share in the world to come.
It is obvious that this court case causes a tremendous violation of Hashem’s name.
Everyday, for the last three weeks G-d’s names is desecrated and the name of Lubavitch has been dragged down to the gutter.
The court appointed a jury of non-Jews and they are hearing and seeing on a daily basis how Chasidic Jews are fighting amongst themselves. They are hearing about all the garbage that goes on in Crown Heights replete with lies and incitement against Jews, etc. All this is done in your name and the name of your Beth Din who purportedly permitted them to go to court. They even publicized this claim that you gave them this permission in a letter to the entire community (and through their website to the entire world).
So our question to you is: Is it true that you gave them permission to go to court?! And if so, when and where did you properly investigate this matter before you issued such a ruling?!
In reality you refused to get involved and refused to hear the other side claiming that you don’t have the power or the manpower to get involved! And if in truth you didn’t give permission to go to court then why aren’t you issuing a letter against those who are spreading lies in your name? And if for whatever reason you are unable to publicly deny their claim that you gave permission (for unfortunate reasons of politics, etc.), then on you the Chachamim said “since you are silent you must agree with it.”
Did you know that they are attempting to put 6 Jews in prison?! Did you know that four of them are family men and fathers of children?!
Do you know that these defendants are unable to work for the last three weeks?
Do you remember the good old fashioned government appointed Rabbonim in the dark days of Russia of old?!
Do you take responsibility for these horrendous Mesira and government informers?!
Haven’t we suffered enough from the Mesira’s against the Rubashkin family, heaven forbid? Which, by the way, your people are part of the gang that ratted on Moshe Rubashkin and had him sent to prison, and they also attempted to inform on Rav Moshe Bogomilsky.
Our sages already commented: “from evil people evil comes forth” and “one transgression leads to another transgression.”
P.S. If it is true that this abomination was approved by you then you are destined to pay for it in this world and the world to come.
We wish to remind you (since your memory fails you to remember if you gave permission….) the words of the Rambam in the laws of Sanhedrin: “it is forbidden for a judge to hear one side of the litigants before the other one is present or in his absence and even one word is forbidden (to listen to) as it says you must listen to your brothers (plural). And if (a judge) hears only one side he transgressed a Torah violation as it says you should not bear vain claims which includes a warning to one who accepts evil talk (loshon hora) and one who says loshon hora and one who testifies falsely (as we see everyday in court).
Rambam Sanhedrin 23, 8: “forever a judge should feel as if a sword is applied to his neck and the gates of hell are open beneath him and he should know whom he is judging and in front of whom he is judging and who will ultimately make him pay (for his ruling) if he deviates from the truth as it says G-d stands among a community of G-d, etc.”
Rambam Sanhedrin 23,9: “every judge who doesn’t rule according to the ultimate truth causes the Shechina (G-d’s presence) to withdraw its presence from amongst the Jews and every judge who takes from one and gives to the other unjustly against Halacha, G-d collects from him lives … And every judge who rules according to the truth even for one hour he is considered as if he corrected the entire world and he causes the Shechina (G-d’s presence) to dwell amongst the Jewish people as it says, G-d stands amongst the community of G-d.”
I suppose that on you it is said: “I said that you are G-dly and that you are sons of man, indeed like man…., etc.”
“Arise G-d judge this world – Pursue Justice!”
Suffering over the public desecration of G-d’s name.
Where there is desecration of G-d’s name you don’t give honor to….
A United Hershkop Family
very nice, sadly it has to be written in the first place, but nevertheless very nice.
I like the fact thats its signed and not a pashkville.
See you Monday.
The following chat I had with a mishichist Bochur proves why there is no such thing as a “moderate” or “quite mishichist”. They are ALL the same, if they wear a Yechi or have a pin or just identify themselves as mishichist, they have no hope. Their minds are corrupt, that might be the reason they are mishichist to begin with.
from: Dov Ber
to: machnemenachem@gmail.com
date: Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 11:06 PM
subject: Chat with Dov Ber
mailed-by: gmail.com
hide details 11:06 PM (10 hours ago)
10:57 PM
me: Gut Voch!
Dov: to you too
gut yom tov
me: and gut yom tov
10:58 PM
Monday, Chof Kislev is closing arguments in the Shomrim Six case. I will be there as many from the community, hope to see you there.
320 Jay street
Dov: you can pay for my ticket, I’ll surely come
me: where are you?
Dov: somewhere out there in the world…
10:59 PM
me: which one of you is in Sydney
Dov: my brother menachem mendel
me: ok
you can still pray
11:00 PM
Dov: sure…
i pray every day
three times
vlmashinim al thi sikva
me: amen
11:01 PM
Dov: question is who are the v’lamshinim
-just kidding
11:02 PM
me: if u were to come to 320 jay street it wouldn’t be a joke
Dov: i know
it’s a shame its taking a long time
a big chillul hashem
11:03 PM
me: what does that mean any more to anybody?
Chillul Hashem?
Dov: i know
11:05 PM
me: to me it means….that whomever is testifying on whomever, doesnt matter, we are all (Yidden) looked at the same. When the Jew on the stand is caught lying, we are all caught lying etc…
11:06 PM
Dov: its a shud this whole thing had to happen
me: it didn’t have to happen
11:07 PM
there are those that wanted it to happen
this is nothing more then a modern day blood libel
done by fellow yidden
Dov: i disagree, but you’re entitled to say whatever you want
11:08 PM
me: explain
i have no work tomorrow (Sunday)
so lets do this
Dov: no
i have to go to sleep
tomorrow is a big day
a yom tov
not a time to argue
bye
11:09 PM
a gute yom tov
blimd hachassidus
me: thought so
Dov: and bedarcha hachassidus
Coming up…
R. Marlow wasn’t any better, like Schwei
R. Marlow also stood by and let mesira happen, in fact he made a mess out of a lot of things in his days.
And like Schwei he not only didn’t do anything to stop the mesira, he had a hand in them.
[…] Rabbi Marlow do anything to stop it, he tried like many [evil] people to justify and excuse. Like Rabbi Schwei he does not admit that he gave permission but does not deny either. None of these justification or […]
This is just like I have seen in R. Schwei.
Yes, he had no problem with secular court, with no opportunity given to mediate, Beis Din,etc..
No Jew, even if he is a rabbi or leader, is allowed to permit other Jews to go to non-Jewish court before summoning the other party to Beis Din, without following the procedure as described. Just as no rabbi or leader can allow the worship of avoda zora or the desecration of Shabbos, likewise permitting Jews to go to non-Jewish court is prohibited. If one did so, he is considered a “machtei es horabim” (one who causes other to sin) and is required to be excommunicated.
It is a mitzva to publicize the names and addresses of Jewish mosrim and their supporters, in order for Jews to know from whom to stay away. Whoever knows of a moser that hasn’t repented, it is forbidden to assist him in any way until he repents.
No Jew or Jewess, wherever he may be, is allowed to go to a non-Jewish court, or to their offices or officers, without exception. If there should be any disagreement between Jews, they should turn to a Jewish Beis Din for their legal proceedings according to Jewish law …
It is not permissible under any circumstances, to summon a fellow Jew to a non-Jewish court prior to summoning him to a Jewish Beis Din …
No Jew, even if he is a rabbi or leader, is allowed to permit other Jews to go to non-Jewish court before summoning the other party to Beis Din …
A Jew or Jewess who says that they will take a fellow Jew to the non-Jewish courts, and they were warned of their sin and didn’t listen, mitzva laha’rog otam, and whoever acts first is worthy, as is the case of a rodeif (one who chasing a person to kill him). (Shulchan Aruch, Choshen Mishpat ibid.) …
A Jewish man or woman who calls the police on the other, is included in the classification of moser …