Koved Harabonim (?) wrote:
When people who claim to be for Koved HaRabbonim say things in the context of…
“I know there is Public letter/Psak to the community prohibiting the use of the camp, but I asked the Rav and he said there is no problem”. etc…WHO ARE THEY MAKING A MOCKERY OF, THEMSELVES OR THE RAV/BEIS DIN THEY ARE CLAIMING TO HAVE THE OUT MOST RESPECT FOR?
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This site is not addressed to the malevolent troublemakers who thrive on dissension and miss no opportunity to stir up controversy. They have no interest in knowing the truth, so no letter, information or facts, can deter them from their goal of provoking strife and sitting back to enjoy the action…
This site and the information on it, is addressed only to those genuinely interested in the truth, justice and who are honestly concerned about respect for the Torah, and are upset by what they feel to be the Chillul Hashem by Spritzer and friends.
If you have nothing genuine to say/state or as(comment), just don’t!
If you know something I might not know, feel free to inform (all of) us. E-mail: machnemenachem@gmail.com
א. אסור לקנות דבר הגזול מן הגזלן ואסור לסעדו על שינויו כדי שיקנהו שכל העושה דברים אלו וכיוצא בהן מחזק ידי עוברי עבירה ועובר על ולפני עור לא תתן מכשול
ב. אסור ליהנות בדבר הגזול ואפילו לאחר ייאוש והוא שידע בודאי שדבר זה הוא הגזלה עצמה. כיצד ידע בודאי שבהמה זו גזולה
אסור לרכוב עליה או לחרוש בה
ג. גזל בית או שדה אסור לעבור בתוכה או ליכנס בה בחמה מפני החמה ובגשמים מפני הגשמים. ואם דר בתוכה חייב להעלות שכר לבעלים כדין הדר בחצר חבירו שלא מדעתו. גזל דקלים ועשה מהן גשר אסור לעבור עליו וכן כל כיוצא בזה
ווען דער רבי וואלט ניט געשטעלט די דריי ווערטער "במדת אמת ליעקב" – באה"ק קטנטי – וואלט ער געאט נאך פופציג טויזענט חסידים, אבער דער רבי מאנט מדת אמת
Had the Rebbe not inserted the three words "b'midat emet leYaakov" ("according to the attribute of Truth unto Yaakov"), he would have attracted fifty thousand more Chassidim. But the Rebbe demands the trait of truth.
אילו היה הרבי משמיט את שלש התיבות "במדת אמת ליעקב" - באגה"ק "קטנתי" - היו לו עוד חמישים אלף חסידים הרבי תובע מידת אמת
Lying is as impractical as it is immoral.
The human brain is a super computer. It has a vast memory bank that can store vast amounts of information. However, even this memory bank has its limitations. As with any computer, it is possible for its capacity exhausted.
Facts require little retention. A tree was a tree ten years ago, is a tree today, and will be a tree ten years hence. Falsehoods, however, have no existence in reality, and must be retained in memory. A faulty memory will, of course, soon expose the false nature of a statement.
Even if memory is intact, the storage of falsehoods occupies precious space where truth could be stored. Retention of these falsehoods will, therefore, diminish the brain's capacity to store useful information. While we may deceive another person with a lie, we cannot make constructive use of false information.
Truthfulness cannot be maintained during active Lying. Excuses, cover-ups, and frank distortion of fact characterize a lie. To live a lie is not only unethical, but also stupid.
Machane Menachem
Very simple:
They’re different Rabonim!
Reitport says no, while Osdobo says yes.
If you have a problem with it, refute it.
Emes says:
Yo Vay!
I rest my case.
Helping me make my point,
handing it to me on a silver platter.
So I ask you mr.emes…
WHO ARE THEY MAKING A MOCKERY OF, YOURSELF OR THE RAV/BEIS DIN YOU ARE CLAIMING TO HAVE THE OUT MOST RESPECT FOR?
How is it that the exact people who preach and “hold the badge” of “koved Harabonim” are the only ones responsible for the destruction of the Rabonim?
Don’t believe?
Just look back at every Machlokes made in the name of the Rabonim (who are the people involved)?.
Just look at who in realty don’t listen to the Rabonim.
Just look at who keeps going to court,
after the same Rabonim they claim to be respecting and even spilling Jewish blood in the name of “koved Harbonim” say they can’t and should not go to court!
Spritzer keeps laughing and spitting in the Rabonims faces yet parents will send their kids to the camp he stole because he is a “Rabonim Man”? Does that make any sense to you?
The only ones these “people” respect is themselves, they will do whats good for them, and use the term “My Rav” or “my Rabbonim” to their own convenient.
When their convenient “Rav” is not so convenient, they just make a new “convenient Rav”.
Very simple:
One is one of the Rabonim.
While the other is one of the Ra-bonim!
If you have a problem with it, refute it.
Both! they are making fun of themselves and the Rabbonim.
ז. אסור לאחד מן הדיינים כשיצא מבית דין לומר אני הוא המזכה או המחייב וחברי חולקין עלי אבל מה אעשה שהם רבו עלי ואם אמר כן הרי הוא בכלל הולך רכיל מגלה סוד ומעשה בתלמיד אחד שהוציא דברים שנאמרו בבית המדרש לאחר שתים ועשרים שנה והוציאוהו בית דין מבית המדרש והכריזו עליו זה מגלה סוד הוא
אם אתם חושבים שהרב שוי יש לו חיילים והם חושבים שהם מנהלים את הענינים,
יש לי חדשות
מי לא זוכר ששפכו פה דם תרתי משמע משפחת קרנסקי,שם טוב ,הרשקופ,
פישר זרחי, ועוד ועוד,
הכל בשם אביר שבאבירים…. כבוד הרבנים ,הוציאו ספר תורה ודפקו על הבימה, כבוד הרבנים ,
ומה קרה איך אומר השיר הגלגל מסתובב,
ומי לוחם ומבזה את הרבנים ואת השכונה אותה החבורה
לעולם זה לא יסולח לכם תעשו קצת חשבון נפש
והרב שוי ידידי אם לא תתנתק מאותם עלובי נפש ברגע שהם ינצלו אותך
אנחנו לצערנו לא נהיה בשבילך
The same people that spilled Jewish blood in the name of Koved Harabbonim are now killing the Rabbonim.
Every body day will come!
Look at all those that were involved in the Machne Menachem Case, where are they today?
Marlow?
Osdaba?
Mengel?
Schreiber?
Etc… Etc…
There is justice after all!
I already wrote that Rabbi Osdobo nodded his approval, the Rabbonim Shvei and Zrikind as well don’t object, and all you have is Rabbi Reitport and Segal (who – by the way – is in a Seiruv)… So what’s wrong with going to the camp? (not to mention that Rabbi Reitport signed the Ikkul not so long after moshe rubashkin put him in (and we all know his Noigai Bedovor regarding the camp, his threats to spitzer and his ideas he had to do with it vechulu vegam poshut…)
besides the point that most of the community doesn’t count rubaskins rabonim as legal…
I;m not interested in getting into the politics about it, as I try to stay away from it as much as possible.
all what I wrote is in reply to what you claim that I am going against Halacha….